Cool. Although Spider-Man did recreate the universe, Cosmic Cubes were easily multiversal in terms of power. Molecule Man wins! Creation of The Beyonders Powers and Abilities: General Abilities Resistances It's just a line of words originally posted by saint Sophie. Molecule Man compared to Beyonder is like comparing Captain America to Molecule Man, the difference in power is unconceivable, so basically adding IG to MM, is like giving Captain America a 2nd shield to fight Living Tribunal and hoping it will be enough (see scan beneath), How can beyonder be stronger than toaa if its said that he is stronger than EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the marvel universe put together also isn't the living tribunal 2nd in command after toaa ? Its just not possible. Molecule man and even the infinity guantlet are still items and beings WITHIN a universe, so its like saying two pieces of a universe could defeat a entire universe. Though in a what if where the Illuminati manage to piss him off he manages to effortlessly destroy the Earth and everything. One user posted a cropped piece of text and claimed it was such. Thanks. I'm aware of the quote, and I've done research, however, I cannot authenticate it. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. If this is PRB we are talking about, he would solo regardless. Official Superhero Database stats. @lowlaville: I'm pretty sure he has not shown any thing he can do with someones soul. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. Go to http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/comicsexplained and get a one month membership of ANY razor for $1. Mad Jim Jaspers is only a part of a single universe. 3. 28.6 K. Beyonder & Molecule Man Either solos, but has an EXTREMELY high amount of difficulty over Oblivion. So it's true after all. @mysticmedivh: Wow. The Beyonder is the sum total of a parallel reality called the Beyond-Realm or simply "Beyond", hence the name "Beyonder". It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. @ordinaryalan: I don't even know where that quote that he retconned himself is from, I couldn't find it anywhere. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Is there credibility to this, to your knowledge? I'll look into it again and see if I can find something. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). No argument can be put up for the Beyonder. Part of the energy from the dimension escapes and imbues Reece with near-infinite powers, which he wields as the villainous Molecule Man . However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. | Class: https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-post-retcon/10-14042/. 1. Wasn't he right underneath TOAA? He never died, he simply changed form. 492B. Molecule Man wins! It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting. " Again, Pre-ret Molecule Man was not omnipotent nor omniscient. LT wins. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. AkhilPDX 3 y 9 mo 15 d. Beyonder & Molecule Man - vs - Team Multi-Eternity (7th Cosmos) #. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is in fact much stronger than Molecule Man. MoleculeMan is the most powerful being in MU. The entire universe would have to attack at once and then it would stalemate as all universes are essentially equal in power and being constructed of energy immortal for our purposes. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Molecule-Man is superior to characters like that aswell. The retcon stuff and Cosmic Cube arc were written out at the time. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man-power-of-beyonders/90-439300/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man-power-of-beyonders/90-439300/. 511B. Wasent when Beyonder fought Molecule man, everybody jumped on and attacked Beyonder, still he kicked them away in a whim? Living Tribunal >>>>Infinity Gauntlet, and Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>Living Tribunal (see scan beneath), so : Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Infinity Gauntlet, therefore IG will add MM nothing more what can add a tiny ant to an elephant to tank an exploding H-bomb. Composite feats from all Marvel Canons. Wow thats pretty cool, I had no idea either. The character The Brothers, unlike Beyonder who is a entire universe represent the yin and yang WITHIN a universe the polarities. MM gave Beyonder a fight on his own, the others were nothing more than insects. Molecule Man wins! Beyonder cannot beat TOAA. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. Molecule man VS Beyonder - YouTube Molecule man VS Beyonder Mask Man 221 Dislike 24 Share Part 2- Result out now #shorts #giant #effect #faffashorts Faffapix Shorts Like Dislike Comment. Buuuuut, Molecule man currently is back to his old power levels. Question: What can Infinity Gauntlet do that MM cant? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Infinite neutral plain tanks all hits, no planetary or universal destruction 11 comments 83% Upvoted This thread is archived All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. This fight will probably span the course of 1 trillion years, but after that, Beyonder will probably win. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. He's a monster that made Multiversal galactus that stomped master order and lord chaos look like little brats. Thank you. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. All out, no holds barred, fight to the death. !SUBS. FREE shipping, no commitments, cancel anytime! 2. @professorrespect: But doesn't inhuman Beyonder have the same power as regular Beyonder since he retconned himself? Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. Bernkastel first summoned few thousands kitties, Will resisted for a while, but it did not take long for the cats to rip off one of his . Are we talking about PR Beyonder? | Class. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. Protege Protege. Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. Molecule Man - vs - Beyonder # 12.4 K. Molecule Man How tf Beyonders does have 1 vote? Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). MM has at least feats worth talking about as compared to Inhuman Beyonder, who was just basic matter manip. not to mention pralaya. The original thread seems to be this: http://www.comicvine.com/beyonder/4005-10300/forums/beyonder-retconned-himself-not-toaa-1612896/. molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment EmptyHand 3 y 9 mo 15 d. Beyonder & Molecule Man - vs - Team Multi-Eternity (7th Cosmos) #. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. Molecule Man Owen Reece Earth-616. 1.-. ok here is the most comprehensive answer. 18 K. @ordinaryalan@baron_von_santa Confirmed the authenticity of the quote. The omniverse in a box feat is really debatable as proof of omniversal level. God Emperor Doom Victor Von Doom Earth-616. Molecule Man was only retconned once, meaning his feats from the eighties still count. It. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/molecule-man-vs-beyonder/90-385102/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/molecule-man-vs-beyonder/90-385102/. He never died, he simply changed form. Molecule Man wins! Molecule Man wins! Beyonder is NOT a being, he is a ENTIRE universe that was UNMANIFEST. Current MM is trash though. 3. This topic is locked from further discussion. Beyonder vs Molecule Man # 12.2 K Molecule Man Nah, definitely the pre-retcon Beyonder is the damn strongest version of him and in fact overpowers almost everyone in Marvel, this would be a current Beyonder that still remains inferior to a current base MM Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. Probably MM if he's PR, he actually fought with PR Beyonder, and PR can blink IH Beyonder. 2. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. Seemingly by the same margin if his wording is anything to go by. 3.3T. No glove, cosmic cubes or power will change that. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Beyonder is a plot device and the pr beyonder is as strong or stronger than toaa beyonder wins with 1 finger. Beyonder represented his entire multiverse in entirety. 2.- featherin vs Lamdadelta (not an actual battle, featherin smashed/trashed Lamda with no actual effort) 3.-. Thusly Beyonder would be "stronger" than them as well. ta. However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. Molecule Man was so goddam powerful that, in Secret Wars 2, all the Elders of the Universe had to. Cool stuff. wait.sorry for not knowing this..but how has the Molecule man "come back" from his apparent "defeat" at the hands of Sentry? Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Molecule Man also strikes fear in the heart of incredibly powerful beings such as Galactus. Molecule Man is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Molecule Man wins! Molecule Man Casual I think this may be the high marvel tier match I was looking for. Ma. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. " The LT begged Molecule Man.. @professorrespect: I know. This dimension is accidentally accessed by nebbishy lab technician Owen Reece. Current MM is trash though. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. We. @professorrespect: I know. In a different moment in some comic, Owen Reece (to Captain America) says that he is unbelievably more powerful than Captain America and that the Beyonder is unbelievably more powerful than him. He loses because TOAA can erase him out of existence if it wanted to, but because TOAA is neutral, it does not. Beyonder Ivory King Earth-616. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers of Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder weren't the real deal, and were merely fodder creations that looked like them, which the Beyonder originally created with his imagination to keep himself occupied. I think they are going to use him in the Infinity Gauntlet movie is the whole reason they did this. Current Molecule Man is a Cosmic Cube. The same can be said of several characters who are universal level or higher. Both Bloodlusted. molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment However, Molecule Man went toe-to-toe with Beyonder (as a previous writer stated) and that version of the Beyonder is probably the second strongest being in the entire Marvel Multiverse. I don't see how beyonder beats them , can beyonder beat eternity since he is a universe. Le. @mysticmedivh: really? In the old secret wars he was the counterpart to The Beyonder who was more powerful than the Living Tribunal. team class. Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule Man, who Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule DC_Marvel_1000 said: Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? molecule man have the power of the beyonders as he is the source of the powers of god emperor doom whom powers were those of the beyonders as he absorbed their powers however the beyonders were were just using avatars,beyonder as well the whole beyonders and owen recreating the 8th cosmos was just their experiment I could not find any related sources, the full uncropped scan, nor could I find the same quote when typing in the exact words given. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. Voting feed. So Molecule Man sort of wins by default. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). Official Superhero Database stats. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin. Yet he can plague and kill an entire universe with his powers. Can I see the proof? But I've read in other topics that the Beyonder is the one who retconned himself both times which apparently makes the retcons invalid since he's the one who did it in the first place, meaning he has the power to unretcon himself, meaning he's still as powerful as he was when he was busting billions of dimensions and the like. In the new secret wars, he was revealed to be a creation of The Beyonders who pl. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers of Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder weren't the real deal, and were merely fodder creations that looked like them, which the Beyonder . Inifinity gems are part of the very construct of the universe, MoleculeMan already gathered all the power existing in the multiverse and still didn't have enough power to just create Beyonder-proof dome (see scan beneath), 3. 1. Come Join The Discord: https://discord.gg/wdNQhJEBecome a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/comicsexplainedSecret Wars II is a nine-issue comic book limited se. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. Molecule Man wins! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Beyonder wins! Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Molecule Man wins! But HoTU, now that might be a game changer. The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. It's legit. Molecule Man wins! No, the idea at the time was that Beyonder was just a really strong Inhuman mutant hybrid. Please support your answer with a little explanation. Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. Molecule Man wins! Name: Molecule Man, Owen Reece Origin: Marvel Comics Gender: Male Age: Unknown Classification: Human ascended by being exposed to the power of The Beyonder | Human ascended by being exposed to the power of a cosmic cube | Multiversal singularity. Beyonder vs Molecule Man (Power Of Beyonders) - Battle - Superhero Database Browse AD FREE for less than 84 a month with an SHDb membership. LT watching Beyonder kill death means peanuts. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. whose own avatar (not even her real self) absorbed the entire dc multiverse and was only countered because the. 588B. So with all of that said, I say they tie after the others die. Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man/90-127983/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-molecule-man/90-127983/. The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. Maybe we could ask where it's from sometime. http://www.comicvine.com/beyonder/4005-10300/forums/beyonder-retconned-himself-not-toaa-1612896/. Answer: He's really powerful, he ranges from universal to multiversal levels of power across the comics. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. I'm confused, what's being argued here? 3. Current Molecule Man is weak and was beaten by Sentry, IIRC. Official Superhero Database stats. The OP is kind of hard to understand, I don't think English is their first language. @kool_chris: eternity is like a bug next to the sun that is the beyonder, @baron_von_santa: More like an atom to a universe. Beyonder vs Molecule Man (Power Of Beyonders) Created by Tyrannus login to vote 6 / 22.2% Beyonder Earth-616 588B SHDb uStats Intelligence 100 Strength 100 Speed Durability 100 Power 100 Combat 100 Tier 9 This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Both Pre-Retcon You know the drill. So basically any version of the Beyonder that we see is simply the version he wishes to be at any given time, meaning he still has the power he had during Secret Wars. LT has been shown to be both. People just don't know the old history of neither the Molecule Man nor the Infinity Gems. | Class. The Current Mutant Inhuman Beyonder is featless. He first appeared in Fantastic Four #20 in November 1963 and was created by Stan Lee and Jack.
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